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Vick Strizheus and Everything You Need to Know About Him

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Last Updated12/01/2020

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This article tells you everything a person would want to know about Vick Strizheus scams, him as a person and some of his past business ventures.

 It's in this article I include the details about Vick's trouble with the law and his biggest breakthroughs as an entrepreneur.

At first you must know I was against Vick and his affiliates and companies, including Four Percent Group becuase of all the stuff I heard about him. Performing a quick search on "Vick Strizheus scams" pulled up several articles on the topic that quite frankly had me concerned.

Then fast foward a few years years and you'll read how I shed some light on the matter, helping you feel more at ease when dealing with him and his products.

I do this by sharing why I believe in many false allegations on Vick's character. I believe Vick has an amazing heart to serve, train, and equip anyone willing to learn. On top of that, his love for everyone to succeed is one of the greatest among marketing professionals I've work with, which in the past 20 years has been plenty.

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With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility

Many people have a lot to say on the internet about someone else's products, programs, and courses. More so, if it's something negative. It's the way the cookie crumbles.

Let's face it. The bigger you get up the success latter (sort-of-speak) the more power you have. This is especially true about the well-known and famous Vick Strizheus, including his latest campany, "The Four Percent Group."

Unfortunatley for Vick, people disgruntled with him are quick to call him a scam and for various reasons. Perhaps, it's because they lost money (for whatever reason) in dealing with his products. That or they never made money. Vick could never gaurantee that anyway.

Maybe they simply lost trust with his past programs. Or maybe it was because Vick promised them something and they never got it. That actually happend to me back inside a program called "Internet Traffic Formula" that I tallk about down below in his past programs.

Whatever the reason, we can't be quick to blame with out taking some sort of personal responsibility.

What people fail to understand is Vick does exaclty that (takes responsibility) to make it rigth, negating any possibility of a Vick Strizheus scam in the process.

Everyone Isn't Perfect

People like Vick Strizheus make it much easier to target and blame even if we ourselves are at fault.

BUT WHATEVER YOU DO...  

... Don't believe a story until you know all the chapters. Until you've referenced past and present sources.

... Listened to the good, bad, and ugly. More importantly, heard "straight from the horses mouth" on the matter. 

Even then, judge carefully --because we're just as imperfect as anyone else. Don't overlook all the stories people make up and/or twist about ourselves. 

I like to think if there are some people that don't like you then you're doing something right.

Fact of the matter is, people everywhere will find a reason to not like you as you grow in power, influence, stature and leadership. Yet another way the cookie crumbles.

Vick Strizheus Growing Up

Vick Strizheus

The truth is, there are always three sides to a story. We already know that. However, has anyone taken the time to hear Vick's side of things?

I'll tell you his side right now, but you can also hear it all from his own video right here.

Vick Strizheus grew up middle class with strong healthy family and spiritual values. He is originally from the Ukraine and moved the the United States as a preteen. He didn't know a word of english upon arriving.

Vick's parents created what was considered an average family environment.

Vick was taught, "you go to school, you study, graduate, get a degree, get a good paying job and take your vacation every other year. In between, you can find time for tv, maybe go out to eat and go see a movie when we could afford it."

There were never any Vick Strizheus scams mentioned or illegitimate activity around him growing up.

This is important to know, because if you got to know Vick you would know he believes we are conditioned by the environment we surround ourselves in.  That those very conditions can make or break us.

That being said, Vick was never conditioned to do anything that went against his family values. However, Vick wasn't oblivious to the "struggle." That was him living a "hard life" to make ends meet.

To make sure he lived a more fullfilled life, he began conditioning his mindset as an entrepreneur.

This started by him telling his mom that one day he was going to own his own business and is going to do big things. So, it became obvious that from an early age Vick was determined to make a name for himself.

Vick's Biggest Breakthroughs

He Loses $30,0000 Dollars

Vick Strizheus' spent most of his young adult career learning how to be the "best" at what he did. This was regardless of what he was doing or what conditions he was raised with.

After cleaning his way through janitorial jobs -- to speaking with angry debtors as a collection rep Vick challenged himself to be the best.

He began living this way thanks to a million dollar income earner he had the privilege of working with when he sold insurance.

Without being the "best," I believe a form of resentment or fear grew on Vick. 

After Vick got married at the age of 20 this mindset of living his "best" hit him the hardest. He found himself living far below his standard of what being the "best" looked like as a husband and soon to be father.

This "hard hit" led Vick to invest over $30K as he sought out internet marketing.

Unfortunately, he spent all that only to come up empty handed. In fact, it wasn't long after burning through those thousands did he find himself living in poverty and desperately seeking help. 

However, it would take a lot more to keep a man so determined down on his knees.

Celebrates His Small Wins

Vick, still aimed at being the best, yet felling so far from it tool every "win" he could. He got that win with just 20 people on his email list, which led to his first sale.

celebrate small wins

So what 'd he do? He kept at it.

He'd grow those small wins (making a long story short) to phenomenal levels. Levels where he could pick apart his competition and stand way above everyone else. 

You see, Vick's biggest breakthrough came from learning very quickly that the online marketing industry was full of saturated "pretenders" all doing the same thing. People he learned to separate himself from. However, the secret was teaching others how he was doing it in the process.

Find a Coach or Mentor to Model After

Vick would add however, no matter how many breakthroughs he had, none of them could compare to having a coach. ...Someone who he could glean from and who was already successful.

After following the steps of his mentor he was able to position himself as an expert to "plant the seed of success for others." He did this by rinsing and repeating the process of "learning, doing and teaching."

If Vick's mentor told him to do something. Vick did it.

"The King of Online Traffic"

King of Online Traffic

After just 3 months of "learning, doing, and teaching" Vick got his first $2,000 dollar commission check (from promoting a big ticket product). Then 3 months later he became the #1 income earner in the same company he was selling those big ticket products in.

Shortly after making 4-figure checks, he was making 5-figures. Then 6-figures and on to 7-figures.

To date, Vick Strizheus scam or not he's an 8-figure earner and influencer. He's obviously doing something right.

He's coached well over over 3 million students and helped thousands achieve extraordinary levels of success.

While raising himself from failure to massive success he became a top producer and the #1 income earner in every company he's ever promoted as an Independent Affiliate Marketer

With his talents combined he's created some of the highest converting sales funnels and business training programs on the internet. In part, due to his ability to generate online traffic.

"The King of Online Traffic" is a nickname he picked up after coming out with some of his past traffic generation courses like "Internet Traffic Formula" (no longer available). This includes earning over 400,000+ unique visitors daily and generating as much as two million unique targeted visitors in only a weeks time.

Since then, he's worked to turn affiliate marketing beginners into millionaires and even multi-millionaires from over 180 countries.

Vick Strizheus Scam: Convicted of Grand Theft!

After Vick Strizheus began making at least $50K a month from about 2006 to 2009 he'd tell you, "life was good." But that all came to a screeching halt when he received a warrant for his arrest back when he was selling insurance at the age of 19

At that age Vick was confident enough to try something that in hindsight he'd tell you was very stupid. Vick states, "I decided to do one stupid, -- at that time -- clever idea."

He Commits Insurance Fraud

Vick ended up writing false insurance claims to his company claiming that he was making sales inorder to get commissions. Sure enough, 5 years later, in 2009 Vick Strizheus' scam convicted him of grand theft. 

It was a time, again at just 19-years-old where Vick stated he "really needed the money."

Even though Vick knew there would be chargebacks, he knew it would provide the short-term cash he needed in advance. So, in his head, he planned to make enough sales to cover those charges down the road. As a result, the company would get their money back with no harm done to anyone (or so Vick said).

And just as planned, the chargebacks happened, but by then Vick had fronted the cash he needed. He'd tell you,  "all was well in the world." However, he failed to realize that he had actually commit a crime with consequences. Something illegal that he would have to pay time and service for.

He was then arrested and formally charged (5 years later) of grand theft. 

In a matter of 24 hours Vick:

  • Was sentenced to 90 days of work release
  • Remained in county jail on the weekends
  • Lost his $50K month business 
  • Was seen as a "Scammer" and Con Artist
  • Shattered his confidence and self image into pieces
  • Lost many friends and business associates

Vick Strizheus' scam put him in "the lowest moment he's ever been in." As a result, he took almost a year off to get himself together and vowed to "never ,ever make the same mistake again."

Unfortuantley, people could care less about his vow at the time. People only saw the headlines and immedialtey threw Vick under the bus for something, to this day Vick claims was an honest mistake.

Vick Strizheus Makes a Comeback

Four Percent Challenge Review

Finishing up a year of getting himself together Vick wanted to prove to people that he was the "real deal."

He was no longer concerned with what other people thought of him because he knew the truth. He knew deep down he always cared. For that reason alone, he wanted to make a comeback.

Strategically, Vick started off by just giving as much value out to his list as possible. After creating just four value stacked videos he coined them the "48-hour cash machine." That further developed into a Clickbank product (he no longer endorses).

He sent this offer of free training out to his list (mostly from the list he built the year prior) promoting this product. As a result and no more than a month later, Vick earned over $30K dollars (recouping what he lost once before). This included sales from another Clickbank product called "Directory of Ezines" that 48 Hour Cash Machine" helped promote.

From there the idea of creating products to help push what his list wanted became a trend with Vick. He got really good at building these support structures to push other products and trainings and made a fortune from it.

Why Some Think Vick Strizheus Scam

Vick's Parntnerships Wern't the Best

Creating partnerships can make a road less traveled. However many people Vick worked with created a recipe that made it tough for him to receive the approval he needed to get his credibility back up.

For example, a couple couple of products and programs Vick created were housed by parent companies. ...But when a parent company gets shut down or falls short in any way it affects the program and product creators like it did with Vick.

Unfortunately, this happened more than once, leaving Vick with no choice, but to shutdown as well.

Although there really isn't much a person can do about that, many customers never knew the whole story. This made it easy for them to continue believing in a "Vick Strizheus scam," even though Vick's heart and love to teach was always intact.

He Promotes Unfinished Products

Some people think promoting an unfinished product is another one of Vick Strizheus' scams, but it's not.

Launching an affiliate program or course before it's complete isn't unheard of. In fact, many veteran marketers do it. However, when customers are not told it's incomplete is the problem. It's even worse to never finish a product, which Vick has done before (for legit reasons) with a program called the Success Challenge (now known as Affiliate Marketing Academy).

The people this frustrates the most are newbies and/or those who don't know Vick. 

It's almost like when you call that best friend and they tell you they're on the way and you know "daggone" well they haven't even left the house yet. You still love them, because you know them.

He Sucks at Timely Follow Through 

Despite how amazing we may be, we've got areas to work on and Vick's no exception. He's an INTP if you're familiar with the "Myers Briggs." Put plainly, he's bad at timely follow through and everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.

I guess I've learned to love him. =)

As Vick Strizheus made his comeback, I do believe he got too ambitious. He might have been ready to get back into his 5 and 6 figure months, but I think he could have taken things a little slower.

timely follow through

I think this caused him to make premature business decisions when it came to people (partners) he teamed up and the deals he made getting into them. This was about his involvmeent with previous companies that I talk about below.

More than just that, Vick is a hype man. "Go big or go home" right?

He just has this way of getting thousands of people involved (that few people can do), only to find an excuse more times than not with why he couldn't meet his promise. Promises that inlcude product launch delays, traffic from CO-OP delays, or program development and upgrade delays. In few cases (within reason) there's no delievery at all.

I mean -- I 100% believe his intentions are good. ...And that he has a huge heart and he wants to change the world. I just wish he wouldn't open his mouth about certain things until it was sign, sealed and delivered you know?

Maybe that's his "best" speaking to soon and he can't help it.

My Recommendation

If he doesn't already have a program up and running, with plenty of positive results, then LEAVE IT ALONE.

If he has something new he is trying out, testing or promoting, such as CO-OPs then proceed with caution or "just say no." Doesn't mean Vick is a bad person or out to scam you.

Some of it is just a part of business and the rest of it is how Vick markets.

To Vick's defense, when Vic shows up -- He typically shows up BIG and over delievers. This includes him offering free trainings or deep discounted products like Mass Traffic Blueprint. Or when he spontaneously creates seminars teaching hundreds of people how to build their internet marketing business for free. 

To that, some will still say never again with Vick, especially if their money was involved. Again, in this business we take risks, trust people, and lose money. ...But we can't let that stop us. Vick didn't and you shouldn't either.

Again, my advice for you with all this is when you purchase a product from Vick make sure it is complete. Or make sure you're confident that it will be complete. You may end up paying a little more, but you'll know it's complete and most likly works.

Then use anything you buy right away and for everything it's worth. That means download videos (if possible), and take as many notes as possible, because there might be a chance you lose it (in a shut down or long delay).

Vick Strizheus's Past Products

High Traffic Academy (Version 1) - RE-DEVELOPED

high traffic academy

Vicks first big product launch was High Traffic Academy. He wanted to ensure his list had what they needed. So, after surveying his list, they unanimously wanted to learn how to generate more traffic.

As a result, High Traffic Academy (HTA) was born as a course in 2011. High Traffic Academy was a video training course that taught people how to get high converting paid traffic to their affiliate offers. 

Once again Vick was raking in thousands of dollars, while continuing to build a massive email list.

Well, it was this same list no matter what Vick asked them to do they did it. Not forgetting to mention the network marketing company, Empower Network that he recommended to all his High Traffic Training customers.

Big Idea Mastermind - TERMINATED

big idea mastermind

The next thing you know Vick is raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars through webinars that only his pre-framed list had access to.

Keeping his theme of building out affiliate marketing systems Big Idea Mastermind (BIM) was launched early 2013 as a marketing engine that drove hundreds of people to sign up with Empower Network (EN). The two were joined at the hip and following his trend of creating products that build onto one another.

Vick generated over $700K in commissions from Empower Network. ...But that's nothing compared to what he was able to to do with Internet Traffic Formula.

Internet Traffic Formula (ITF) was a product Vick did just for Empower Network. Within the first 5 days, following the same principles ITF brought in over 3.5 million dollars. 

Empower  and ITF

Empower Network and Internet Traffic Formula

As a result, it was these two product launches (Empower Network & Internet Traffic Formula) to coined Vick's nickname as the "Traffic Generation and Conversion King."

Unfortunately, Empower Network went bankrupt and had to shutdown.

As a result, everything Vick invested inside his affiliate marketing system, including Big Idea Mastermind went down with it.

People we were clueless as to what happen. Unfortunately, people created stories that led to one thought after the next with the conclusion that it was a Vick Strizheus scam. We know it wasn't.

Despite what people thought Vick took responsibility in ways he could.

Internet Traffic Formula - TERMINATED

internet traffic formula

The first product I owned from Vick Strizheus was Internet Traffic Formula (ITF). It launched in April 2014. ITF was a $997 dollar product that got shut down once Empower Network went under.

The course was designed to teach online marketers worldwide everything they needed to know about traffic generation techniques and strategies.

This course gave you a plethora of traffic generating secrets.

I'm pretty sure when I purchased -- it wasn't complete, nor was it when it was terminated. I thought for sure this was a Vick Strizheus scam, but once I found out what happened to Empower Network everything made sense. However, there were several individuals upset, because they lost access to their purchased product.

In the aftermath, everyone should have been sent copies of each video inside the course. After following I was, but I waited to long to acquire them so that part is on me. 

High Traffic Academy (Version 2 & 3) - TRANSFERRED

high traffic academy

After Empower Network went under Vick ended up going back to High Traffic Academy to redevelop it into its second version. Except this time he brought in a business partner.

Together they created a "Total Domination Engineering" Funnel and once it launched generated a million dollars in only 18 hours.

Similar to Internet Traffic Formula, there were people who purchased products inside High Traffic Academy for it to get cancelled a short time later. 

Although these individuals got replacement courses, many remained upset the course wasn't what they originally paid for. Some were out thousands of dollars. They thought this was for sure a Vick Strizheus scam.

With High Traffic Academy also came the rumor about a Vick Strizheus' scam with "switching affiliate links" for his own. He either did it or bitter individuals kept a target on Vick's back. I'll never know. 

HTA version 3 came out eventually with more tools, training, and masterminds. It lasted through late 2016 as far as Vick's involvement was concerned.

Tecademics - COMPANY SOLD

tecademics

 Vick then went into business with a guy named Chris Record. It was another affiliate marketing structured company formerly known as "Internet Marketing College."

Using the same strategy as before Vick created a sales funnel for affiliate marketing beginners to promote what woud initially be called Tecademics.

Unfortunately, as it was Vick's luck... thinks didn't seem to pan out for Tecademics. Tecademics was sold and once again Vick's audience grew frustrated with the inconsistencies. Unfortunately, it made it easy for many of them to think it was yet another Vick Strizheus scam.

Not surprisingly, Vick found a way to come out on top of this situation when he purchased Tecademics. He did so having finally believed what needed to do to bring people a real and credible way the results they wanted.

He rebranded Tecademics as the Four Percent Success Challenge, under the company name, "The Four Percent Group."

The Four Percent Group - AVAILABLE 

Four Percent Challenge Logo

The Four Percent Group is now unlike any product Vick Strizheus has created. Also, The Success Challenge is now known as Affiliate Marketing Academy

The Four Percent Group has become an educational ecosystem of products and no longer a business opportunity or tiered network.

Check out this article with everything you need to know about the Four Percent Group by going here.

Within the Four Percent Group Vick hopes to by put more individuals on the path to success than any other internet marketing program on the market. In Vick's words, "The Four Percent Group will become the next Amazon for Internet Markters.

From reading this article you and I both know how ambitious Vick is so we wont hold our breath on that one.

Moreover, Vick's hope is that the 4% Group, "no matter what it is you're promoting or offering can help rise head and shoulders above everyone in your space. This includes multiplying your results, and becoming UNSTOPPABLE."

Why "Vick's Scams" Don't Matter

Mastering Yourself to Become a Better Leader

I've been marketing online for over a decade now.... There are plenty of scammers out there that wish to do nothing more than take your money.

Vick Strizheus is NOT one of them.

Vick's products (most for beginners and intermediate marketers) help you become the best version of yourself by helping you overcome life challenges. He does this through personal development, mindset, belief, and empowerment.

Moreover, he would tell you, "never ever be a pretender. Never ever cut corners and always build your business on a solid foundation."

Vick's training, lessons learned and leadership has allowed me to understand the concept of Attraction Marketing. ...And why it's important to put people first instead of money.

The way he masters himself to be a better leader is the furthest thing a person can be from a scam.

Any credible review after hearing a Vick Strizheus scam would tell you he prides himself in becoming a better person and helping others do the same. Ultimately, making a case for himself that he's not out to scam you.

I'm not saying everyone who thinks Vick is a scam is wrong. They're entitled to their opinion just like I am. I'm saying their experience as a marketing beginner simply didn't meet their expectations and feeling scammed is a perfectly logical thing to feel.

There is also a good reason behind the way these people felt and still feel. Cases we'll never really know how much of Vick was truly at fault.

Focus On a Deeper Purpose

It's not all about the poor choices Vick Strizheus has made in life as if you and I are perfect. Nor is it about how a beginner's affiliate marketing course he represented changed or no longer exists.

bigger picture four percent

There are too many undefined variables to determine who was at fault and why. Was it browser error, human error, a partner of his, or Vick himself at fault?

Even if every negative thing people said about Vick was true, we all should know we don't put our faith in a person that can fail us. They will inevitably disappoint you.

What I've learned from Vick is that what matters is what you learn and how are you applying what you learn to reach your life goals.

...Fulfilling your why and developing your deeper purpose to get to where you're going.

...Determining who you are, what your business represents and who you are serving in the process.

Focusing on anything else is a waste of time.

What Building a Business is Really About

Why waste time trying to prove someone was in the wrong? I always feel crappy when I do that anyway.

This energy and time would be better spent trying to uncover the scammers out there who mean to scam you right now. I mean "knocking on wood," but in this very moment you may get a phishing email, impressionable call, taken advantage of, and God knows what else. 

Instead, how can we acknowledge the people who are doing what they can to make things right and help them learn from their mistakes?

improvement

That way we can fix what we can, and move forward.

That's the only way we improve and grow.

So, the value Vick Strizheus continues to teach and give -- I continue to pour into my own business. My own products and into my own company. 

After all, I'm the only person I can judge.

I also feel 100% comfortable with someone who can admit his wrongs and works to make things right, like VIck often does.

Tell Vick How You Really Feel

Since joining the Four Percent Group, Vick Strizheus has come on live Zoom calls in front of hundreds of people. These are large online/virtual meetings. During these meetings Vick allows anyone to unmute themself to share their heart. They can ask any question they have about him and his products.

Take a look at this video below. In it was a recording Vick did with Four Percent Success Challenge members (now inside the Affiliate Marketing Academy). These are all people who made it to their first mile stone inside the course. It was recorded November 2018.

The video gives strong support for why Vick Strizheus scams are NOT likely.

You will also see how Vick addresses questions and how anyone who has an issue or question can speak up or forever hold their peace.

I absolutely love these virtual Zoom meetings, because there are no other marketing gurus out there that I know of that do this like Vick allows his followers to.

Take a look... Pay special attention to what he says around the 1:30 marker through 4:00 minutes.

Vick Strizheus Summary

I know I shared a lot in this article.

I appreciate you taking the time to reda through some of it.

Leave a comment if you have a question, concern or comment and lets see if we can get a discussion going about it.

Bottom line is you either like Vick or you don't. He has a style unmatched by any other marketer out there. Yes, he is over zealous moree times than not. He does put the "cart before the horse" at times. With that I'll conclude by saying he's definitely somone you need to get use too. Otherwise move on.

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About the author

Ross Curington is an Online Marketer. He also goes by the Attraction Strategist (AStRaTeGiSt). After several years in the industry of marketing online, he devotes his time helping people obtain what it is they truly want despite being too busy or broke. Moreover, he will help you determine if attracting income marketing online can get you there.

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  • This is a great post Mr Ross, I was so happy to come across Vick Streizeus and his program: The four percent challenge..this is one of the lifechanging opportunities that one can’t come across frequently.
    I have met members who went from zero to their first million dollars online doing nothing but following Vick’s teachings.

    • Vick!!! You are absolutely right! I’ve been following Vick for a while. Haters will be haters. However, without the haters, he wouldn’t be someone as valuable as he is rigth? I mean if we don’t have our fair share of people hating on us, it means we’re not taking enough chances with our business, or as entrepreneurs, or anything else we’re doing really. We also use our haters to grow and push ourselves to even greater extents. Let em hate!!!

  • Thank you Ross, great review. I have recently enrolled in 4 percent challenge program and your honest review here fired me up to keep moving forward.

  • Great review Ross. I’ve been a member of the Challenge since Jan 2018. The challenge has indeed changed my life and they say “old dogs don’t learn new tricks”. I’m 63 and on that video above front and center wearing the camouflage T-shirt. Glad to see your great post.

  • I am in 4 percent since nov. 2018 . Its in Dec. I got in his 1st Co-Op. Its July 2019 and they had problems with the funnels and internal situations. Support says the Co-op is running slow. Out of a 1000 name list I paid for $600. only 8 people have gone thru my link. I have waited for 6 months for Session 25 to come out. When it came out. it only had 1 video talking about being Relevant and 1 video talking about CycoCybernetics. So now Im waiting for Session 26 to come out. The only way to go from 1 Session to the next, you are forced to go to Trust Pilot and put in a moment on why you like the Session. If you have a negative comment, you are suggested to bring it to the support first. What I don’t like is Why this long dry spell of no Co-op running or running at a snails pace for 7 months now – 8 people from the Co-op seeing the business opportunity. I have not brought my frustrations with 4 Percent because I don’t want my name on a black list with 4 percent and I have $600 of Co-op leads that I have not seen but 8 people out of 1000 people in 7 months. Im at the point were I dont care of Vick’s 4 Percent or any of his other stuff he will come up with. I will not advertise 4 percent to any of my leads and email list because I don’t want them to go thru the same crap I have gone thru. Yea I could make money hosteling people and making money from them, but that is not my style. This week on a Internet Hangout, Vick had one of his Star Players talk about how he made all this money. His name is Paulo Beringuel. Paulo Beringuel spamed me in single days 3-4 times a day, everyday for May 2018 to Feb. 2019. I tried several times to unsubscribe from his list. But his unsubscribe button would not work. I emailed Paulo several times stop his emails. But nothing would happen until I told 4 Percent about what this Paulo Beringuel clown was doing. Vick taught us not to spam and hammer a list every day with no value. Yet Vick still hold Paulo in high estem by having him on a Hangout to tell everyone about his success. I am so sick of 4 Percent. But I don’t want to loose out on the rest of the 1000 – 8 people Co-Op. I will never be involved with any other of Vicks Business or Courses. I suggest new people think long and hard before investing in any of Vicks adventures.

    • Thank you for your post. You helped me clarify a couple of things in the “Vicks Biggest Issues” section. Please re-read that if you have a moment. But please hear me when I say I totally get where you are coming from.

      That’s why I said this under the “Mastering Yourself to Become a Better Leader” section:

      “I’m saying their experience as an affiliate marketing beginner simply didn’t meet their expectations and feeling scammed is a perfectly logical thing to feel. There is also a good reason behind the way these people felt and still feel. Cases we’ll never really know how much of Vick was truly at fault.” At fault that is for specific issues that have happened in the past cause people to point fingers. …Which in no way am I saying Vick is a scam. I just wan to be clear. But go re read what I wrote in the mastering yourself section above.

      I think you should reach out to a few more people who purchased the Co-Op and then make a post. Then the people you reached out to can voice what is happening on this post. Be sure to separate facts from opinions and be respectful like you seem. …Reaching out to others so you’ll be backed by others. I don’t think you’d get blacklisted for being honest, but reaching out to others will prevent this.

      I also think after you said this: “Im at the point were I dont care of Vick’s 4 Percent or any of his other stuff he will come up with” … may be premature. There are several variables behind the Co-Ops and Vick said there were things he could not promise with them including refunds. He also said they should not be “all your eggs in one basket.” You need to build your business so you have a constant stream of traffic outside of Co-Ops and Solo ads. I think if you are honest in your experience to your leads they will trust you more. Then when you share the value you have gotten from Vick they will gladly accept what you have to offer from it.

      As far as Paulo. Not sure what to say about him spamming you. I know he has a huge Youtube page with vidoes that he uses as his primary way of marketing. No one should ever spam you like that. I’m sorry about that. I hope you got in touch with him to tell him personally. Check with your Autorepsonder’s support next time. They can handle those kinds of things. I doubt Vick knew he spammed you. Vick does not tolerate spam.

      To say you will never be involved with anything Vick does is a BIG statement. Losing money is tough. I’ve lost over $20K in everything I’ve done. But that’s business. Learn your lessons and keep your head held high. Use this experience to your advantage. Never be too quick to quit. I 100% trust Vicks heart. I just know how he operates and I have adjusted. So you may be leaving a ton of value on the table only to walk into another business or product with worse or different problems you know? I hope this helps.

      • Ross,
        Where are standing? The lady just outline why people should not get involve in 4% and you there beating around the bush. Is Vick a scam artist or not? Be clear! The 4% percent promised 10K in 30 days and this lady has been waiting for eight months to complete level one.
        Let’s call it black or white. This guys is deceiving thousands of people around the world with unattainable goals and making them to scam innocents people as well. Come on.

        • Please read this section: “Why Vick’s scams don’t matter.” For the point, I do not believe he is a scam. I do believe in the 3 problems I listed about him. They don’t make him a scam artist. I trust is heart and his intentions but he puts the cart before his horses a bit too often, which creates the reason some people see him as a scam. Once you get to know him you’ll know he’s a really caring, spiritual, and thoughtful person.

  • Let’s see you post about this latest scam?

    Here it is; Vick releases his new Idea the promotional partners pack where you can all of these great new MSI options. Seems all good looking through the looking glass of little greenhorn.

    But let’s look deeper, Vick charges people $495 a year to join this new revolution of never seen before glory, and promises this is an intro price for those that get in early if not well FOMO kicks in and you will pay a gazillion more if you wait. And yes, of course, the count down timer is running, get in today or doomsday will follow.

    Now what happens here and according to Vicks number approx 750 blind people jump onto the train of future vision.

    So let’s do the math here 750 * $495 = $371,250 is raised but here is the sleight of hand.

    Vick had nothing ready to and has taken him a month to get things running, so those people for the first month could do nothing. (He was selling stuff that was not ready)

    Now let’s look at that math $371,250 / 12 (months) = $30,937.50 or over 1K a day on average Vick sucked out the system right before everybody eyes and yet nobody saw that.

    Vick certainly did not extend everyone’s renewal date by 30 days, no he just pocketed 30+K for doing nothing but makeup excuses and reasons why things were not ready to go.

    Leave that one with you.

    • Thanks for your post. Two things.
      1. I think his VIP promo pack idea seems good too, like you mentioned — “Seems all good looking through the looking glass of little greenhorn.” Many great incentives like increased commissions, funnels, and MSIs.
      2. Cheaper prices for early release products are common across the industry. Even selling entry into a new released product before its complete is more common than one might think.

      That being said, could Vick have been more upfront about those first 30 days? Yes, maybe. I’m sure some tech issued happened or whatever… Typical Vick. But listen… I’ve already made my money back, 5 times over by being a VIP partner. I’m not worried about it. I know Vick well enough to trust him.

      But let’s go with what you’re saying for a sec. You’re saying that $495 was for an advertised year right? But really we will only end up getting 11 months worth of benefits since it wasn’t ready. Why is that a problem if he had planned to raise the price to $997 for 12 months shortly after? We all knew the price was going up. I guess I’m saying, I would rather pay $495 for 11months instead of $997 for 12 months. He could have taken an extra 2 or 3 months before it was all ready — It still would have been worth it to me.

      Just think of it as if Vick could have charged us $540 for 12months ($45 a month from $495 a year), but instead he only charged us $495 because he knew he needed those 30 days to set everything up for us. So in theory he could have already given us a $45 dollar discount.

      Now to someone else, yes I get it. Vick could have been more clear and said your VIP partner benefits won’t be 100% ready until your account get’s set up in 30 days (or however long it took), but he didn’t. That or just said it would be for 11months instead of a year. … Those of us that know Vick probably already knew there would be a short delay. This is why in under “Why some think Vick is scam I talk about how he promotes unfinished products and is very bad at timely follow through.

  • Thanks Ross,
    This is a really useful history lesson about Vick. Showing warts and all his mistakes of the past allows readers to form their own views on whether all the issues are ingrained character flaws or errors than Vick has overcome.
    Question. Both Vick and Duplicate Dave Sharpe were part of Empower Network that went belly up, were they owners or did they work together? Please share any connection between Vick’s exact role at Empower Network and connection to Dave Sharpe if you know it.

    • Hi John!

      Thank you! Vick was not an owner of Empower Network. He was an affiliate and a product creator of it. I’m not exactly sure what Dave Sharpe’s role was nor how well the two did business together. My thought is if one of them was the owner of EN it was Dave.

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